In two months of NeurOptimal(R) training I noticed dramatic effects: positive changes in my thought patterns and anxiety levels.  Circular or disturbing thinking seemed to be met with instantaneous feedback and was stopped.  Followed by Holistic Counselling, created even greater positive change.  Gerald, Woodlands  WA.

Lifelong depressive moods since the age of 16, lifted several years ago when I trained on NeurOptimal(R).  After 8 sessions I no longer felt depressed, and after 15 sessions my depressive thinking also lifted.  Holistic Counselling further changed me for the better, and also gave me the language and tools to help my family, through family systems approaches.  My situation required approaches beyond what was traditionally available.  Frank, Gwelup WA.



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Rosemary Kroll

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